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jango
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- May 1, 2007
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We have a request to put a Q-Tran 600W dual-output (120v to 12v) transformer in an attic which will feed low voltage cable lighting and the transformer will likely be at full capacity as far as the load (300W on each output).
Can someone direct me to anywhere in the code book that verifies one way or the other if a low voltage lighting transformer can be located in an attic? Or does it depend on the manufacturers recomendations? If it's the manufacturers recomendations, does anyone know what it is specifically from Q-Tran?
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Chris6245
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- Ohio
- May 1, 2007
- #2
I would say it depends on the manufacturer instructions and the listing of the transformer. Also make sure your wire is rated for it's use. Most low voltage cable isn't rated for concelled spaces (ie. fished in or through walls). Seagull makes wire that is rated and has been the only one I have found so far.
jango
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- May 1, 2007
- #3
Chris6245 said:
I would say it depends on the manufacturer instructions and the listing of the transformer. Also make sure your wire is rated for it's use. Most low voltage cable isn't rated for concelled spaces (ie. fished in or through walls). Seagull makes wire that is rated and has been the only one I have found so far.
How about 8-2 Tray Cable VNTC?
infinity
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
- May 1, 2007
- #4
What about good old NM cable? IMO the attic shouldn't be a problem unless the manufacturer feels that the excessive heat might shorten the life of the transformer.
memyselfandI
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- Hampton Roads, Virginia
- May 1, 2007
- #5
I used those Qtrans before. They called them at the time the "Cadillac" of low voltage lighting transformers. All these fancy shmancy yolks and filters designed for dimming. I put them in a attic but because of the loads that they served I had to use Romex to feed the low voltage track. The thing about low voltage lighting is that if you have multiple feeds for the lights from the same transformer then all the cables have to be the same length otherwise you'll get some lamps that are brighter than others, at long distances.
Chris6245
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- Ohio
- May 1, 2007
- #6
Couldn't find the listing other than "For installation in raceways, trays, wireways, troughs, channels, ducts & conduit; direct burial"
Dennis Alwon
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- May 1, 2007
- #7
Most transformers don't like being in a hot attic. If you look at the little 10va doorbell transformers and it says do not put it in the attic.
I have hooked up LBL low voltage lighting and I am not sure whether they say do not put the trany in the attic but if you call tech support they don't recommend it. I would avoid it if you can
acrwc10
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- Building inspector
- May 1, 2007
- #8
We do this from time to time. I always use 10-2 NM and locate the transformer where it is easy to inspect if you need to. Also they have a "breaker" reset on them that you will want to access without a crawl if it trips. We had a cable light that the tapers hit both conductors with a trawl while the lights were on "pop". I was very glad I put the transformer where I could get to it without a fight. Make sure all the connections are tight LV lighting doesnt like loose fittings.
Dennis Alwon
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- May 1, 2007
- #9
Depending on the distance with a 300 watt load youmay need a #8 wire. I have done that more than once and I almost never use #12 esp. for 300 watt load.
Pierre C Belarge
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- Westchester County, New York
- May 1, 2007
- #10
jango said:
How about 8-2 Tray Cable VNTC?
336.12(2)
This cable type has to be installed in a raceway or cable tray for most installations.
acrwc10
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- May 1, 2007
- #11
Dennis Alwon said:
Depending on the distance with a 300 watt load youmay need a #8 wire. I have done that more than once and I almost never use #12 esp. for 300 watt load.
Agreed, I think if the transformer is in the attic it is most likely to get it close to the load.
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